Deciphering of difficult de facto hand signals

The Malaysian Insider (TMI) - YouTube video appears to reveal Anwar, Azmin ordered Dataran breach I am not sure whether the above is the same video by Free Malaysia Today as presented by Malaysiakini and which I mentioned in a previous post Was it worth cordoning off Dataran Merdeka? It discussed a Malaysiakini report that Papers blame Azmin, Anwar for 'instigating' chaos TMI reported this: In the very first few seconds of the 19-minute video Opposition Leader Anwar who is standing on top of a truck is seen making a rolling gesture with both hands in Azmin ' s direction before the camera pans to the Gombak MP . Azmin who is standing on top of the barricade with his back towards the square jerks his thumb over his shoulder and nods back in Anwar ' s direction while an Indian male in a yellow T-shirt also makes the same gesture towards the PKR de facto leader . The Selangor PKR chief then looks over his shoulder towards the man who some on Twitter say is ...